Thats mostly your CPU.
IF you have problems with full grid set up the graphic card without any AA.

I dont think a graphic card would help you to get like 25-30FPS least.No way.

I would go for this:

Dabs Value Midi Tower 400W Silent
http://www.dabs.com/productvie ... klinx=39MW&PageMode=1
With 350W you might have a problems.
£27.08

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=MB-071-MS
MSI AMD2 socket motherboard.
£49.34

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=MY-005-TG
same memory as above
£23.49

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CP-168-AM
Athlon X2 64 4200+ , 3 years warranty instead of 1 for your OEM version.
£70.49

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=CD-053-LG
LG Multi DVD+- writer including DVD-RAM
£19.96

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... duct.php?prodid=HD-046-WD
WD 250GB 16MB cache.Very fast. 80GB would be really on the low side.
£42.29

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/ ... p;catid=56&subcat=912
8600GT - you are on limited budget but this card is very good value for the money.
£88.11

Makes total 320,76 GBP total including VAT.

Going with the 80GB you would save 16 GBP and that makes total 304GBP and also I dont have good experiences with VIA chipset last 2 years.They have been very good before but not nowdays.My friends who wanted to go the really cheap and buying VIA chipset motherboard had a lot of problems with chipset drivers and over stability.

I would invest those 20 GBP more.

Hope it helps you.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 19 May 2007, 10:46.

Its great Bob that its running again.
I have same red glow comming from my powersuppy power switch.I can sleep well with that

Do you have problems with textures in other games?
IF yes then try newest/different drivers.In the case it wouldnt help I think its corrupted memory on your graphic card.

I would not buy motherboard with AGP slow nowdays.You will be pretty limited later when you will be upgrading graphic card.PCI-E is much better choise.

Jakg is right guys.

I have attached my opinion on the simmilar system.Would get to 1200GBP if I would include Windows Vista Home Premium OEM + same flash stick and web camera.

Saved around 250GBP and having better cooler,fast 10k RPM drive for OS and second HD.Better mice.I could get easily 150GBP down without the fast 10K rpm HD and different motherboard from MSI which I know can overclock nicely too.

I think one package from overclockers is not well balanced.1000W power supply is so overkill.
You we need several HD,2x 8800 GTX in sli and some Quad core overclocked and this would be still enough.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Sat 19 May 2007, 09:26.

Quote from al1asx :

Is it possible to use this, or any other physiks, card with lfs?

Not at the moment.
LFS doesnt support this card or any other.Almost none of the games support it.

To be honest its a waste of money buying something like that.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Fri 18 May 2007, 14:30.

Quote from andybarsblade :

it cant be done then? maybe if you build it yourself. but then you have no warrenty and a month of messing around putting it together. looks a bargain

Man,I do have a job where I have to work so I didnt have time yet to answer and fullly research.I think its still possible thought!

Warrant still apply to components as exactly was said by the post above and 1 afternoon its enought to build it.

When I will have time I will post the price of the components together.
Cheers,
DEVIL 007

CLOSE this one

Its overprized and you could save like 400GBP but it was your choice so congratz for the new system and enjoy it the best way

Hi,

Please download and install the program from the link below.It can tell you almost all details about your hardware including the memory details you looking for.

http://www.lavalys.com/product ... d=3&frm=0&lang=en

Whats your notebook vendor and type?

Quote from Slidaaaa :

You people are indeed rich...ive seen guy giving dfp, now a sweet videocard, i use a geforce2, but i still wouldnt want something given by someone i dont even know.

You must be kidding man.
This LFS comunity is so nice and someone want to make someone else happy and people start complaining....jesus I dont understand that at all.

I was at the office and reading the thread about the skins downloading for money in the general sections I was under impression reading various post that its not possible to donwload only hires car skins and you have to download both car and helmet skins.I applogize for the wrong posts then.

Well maybe I am blind but I dont think its possible when you want to download hi-res skins then you can do it only for car skins.You download both.IF yes then I am really sorry...

People said they dont care much about hi-res(1024) helmet skins and would like to pay rather for car skins without the helmet skins.

I know the suggestion shouldnt come here but when reading the thread in General sections about "would you pay for skins...." a lot of people asking if would be possible to select only to download Hi-res car skins or Hi-res helmets.

ON/OFF hi-res Car skins
ON/OFF hi-res Helmets skins

I thought for W25.....

Quote from Cue-Ball :

How about we let him finish S2 before we start demanding that he begin work on S3, hmmmmm?

Where I have asked for something like that.....I want S2 to be finished and then finally to improve the 3D engine after the years.there are still some minor/major graphic improvements which needs to be done before S2 final.Lets say shadows under all cars for full S2 should be done.

This is going very offtopic now.I am very happy for Scawen`s small report and thats end the speculation probably.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Thu 17 May 2007, 16:01.

Quote from Hyperactive :

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DX7, FX5 or DX10, who cares?

The graphic effects like brake fade(glow) is a part of simulation in both physic and graphic way.The word simulation mean to simulate and I am expecting to do it in all areas.Some effects add immersivity as well.

Scawen mentioned he would like to add dynamic weather and thats not possiblw without DX9 at least.

Do you know who cares?Customers and potential buyers.
I bet if LFs would have much better 3D engine showing to people some nice effects there would be much more sold licencies.Why do you think people asking for hi-res textures.Becuase they want better graphic.

Quote from felplacerad :

Give it to Blackout

Though actually, I had a Club3d X800 XT PE which broke, here's how it all began:

broken memory chips.
If would be GPU that you would see a lot of DOT artifacts.

Quote from Blackout :

Yes, might be the CPU. Currently running with Athlon 2400+ and Radeon 9600 XT, it's getting old now, but there must be a ton of people with worse rigs. LFS is ok when with few cars, but struggles on the grid badly, and games like Oblivion..well, not a chance!

If you can't find anyone to give it to, I'm willing to buy that thing from you, it's a good GPU.

I dont think the X800 would help you a lot maybe onlt to add some AA+AF but I dont mean that you would not deserve it

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Thu 17 May 2007, 15:44.

Yeh converting would take some time but Scawen will have to do that soon to support effects and other things.
Also most of the current games 3D engines have several path for the different DX9 hardware SM2.0 SM3.0 etc.Getting complicated for Scawen thought.....I would like to see shifting forward with 3D engine because there is more possibilities to offload the work to GPU and using some cool effects without loosing the current performance.Most of the DX9 hardware is now halfway used in LFS so there shouldnt be performance drop adding some effects.

What I mean with the effectivity that when you start using some DX9 pixel/vertex code the effectivnies vary also across the DX9 hardware becaue there is DX9 a,b,c spec and they differ as well.

Also the later DX9 the longer code you can do in one cycle without ususally loosing the performance.

Last edited by DEVIL 007, Thu 17 May 2007, 15:18.

No,Jakg mean that it shouldnt be possible with your board.
I know some motherboard with 945chipset support also Core2 Duo but after at least the BIOS update.By the looking at HP pages they didnt mentioned anything about that.

Having 775 socket doesnt mean automatically C2D is supported.IS it due to special power requirement/norms and usually later revions of the board support C2D with same chipset.

Maybe to threw a question on ASUS official forum.I bet someone will answer that but I have high doubts its possible.Sorry

Hi,
I dont know anything about LFS lapper but without the red text it would be much better.I am not sure what you have been tring to achive by that but we are not blind and always helpfull in this section.

Quote from Blackout :

I have no idea how is it like to start behind the grid with playable FPS, something above 5.

I can make few cool skins for you!

whats your current CPU and GPU?Maybe thats the problem and not your GPU.

Quote from Scawen :

I don't know what interface we will use for the graphics. I guess we'll make a choice when the time comes and I start to work on a graphical test bed. I think the important thing is what you can implement, not what interface you use to achieve that, though of course the interface provides the means of creating various effects, so it's important to choose the right one, advanced enough to implement the features but not so advanced that it's not widespread enough.

I dont like to qoute you Scawen but I couldnt help with that reading the above.
I think the choosing the right interface(I hope I understand well that you mean DX9,10...what ever) is crucial to be able to support as many customers as possible without big complaints.
Also the older the engine the less effective it is.Lets say in hypotetical way some vertex/pixel code can be executed for example with DX9 hardware faster then with DX8.1 hardware so its more effective and might give your more FPS as the result.

Thanks for a small "progress" report what have been Eric doing so far.I wouldnt mind 2 or 3 teasing pictures thought.

Madman,
I doubt its due to skins.I think your CPU is slow for 22 cars and this has nothing to do with graphic.